What's acceptable gas mileage to you?

"Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!" (patrickgruden)
11/19/2015 at 14:07 • Filed to: None

I’m curious. Oppo is pretty diverse, it would be interesting (to me at least, maybe no one else) to know what you consider acceptable gas mileage. I guess the second part of this question is how far away is your daily commute?

Are you willing to forgo some fuel economy in sake of a fun car? I’m not asking demographic and what people make, because everyone’s situation is different. Just curious what’s an acceptable tradeoff to you?

Personally, I pull down about 33MPG (2015 Civic) in mixed driving, and that’s good enough I guess. I’d like better, but I really can’t complain because I could have it a whole lot worse. I want sportier but am unwilling to compromise on the MPG. I guess I’m just getting old. Or I need a P85D.

DISCUSSION (100)

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:11

I would be happy with 30mpg in my Subaru. I'd love for them to make a car that got 40mpg highway @ 80mph.

Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:12

I’m happy with anything over 20 in my IS300. Averaging 20.84 right now. Averaged 20.94 in my Celica. My wife uses her Enclave for short trips in town. Mileage is atrocious.

El Rivinado > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:12

If I can hit at least 20 on the highway, that’s good enough for me. Sounds odd I know, but then again, I’m willing to give up fuel economy for other things.

As for my car, the best I can do on the highway is in the mid-20s, not great, but acceptable.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
11/19/2015 at 14:12

Yeah, that's about what I cruise at. If I could 40mpg doing 80 that would be awesome.

The Dummy Gummy > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:13

Given my location and the potential for snow fall in the winter I have to accept a lower MPG (or at least I think). I drive over a 100+ miles today and I’ve accepted my AWD’s avg of about 27MPG. I don’t think it’s too bad (especially since fuel is cheap, right now). I would love to have a 40MPG car, but not at the risk of not being able to get to work.

If I drive around 65-70MPH though I can achieve 29-30ish. (commuter car: ‘08 Impreza wagon).

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:14

I get 19-20 on my SVT Focus. I live 4 miles from work. Suburb streets and highway commuting route.

The Dummy Gummy > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
11/19/2015 at 14:14

Ha, cracks me up we pretty much said the same thing while both owning Subaru’s. Hell yes!

Party-vi > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:14

With Primacy tires, my E46 was getting 27-28mpg. Now I see around 25mpg with the Pilot A/S3 tires. I would rather see closer to 30mpg because I’m driving 90 miles a day, and I’ve making a car payment in gas each month.

Textured Soy Protein > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:15

I’m happy when my ’05 Grand Cherokee Hemi with heavy all-terrain tires does better than 12 mpg.

Patrick Nichols > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:15

I wish I got better than the ~28 I get in my ‘08 Golf 2.5 on mostly highways, but I do like that it has never felt underpowered. I’m prepared to drop down to somewhere between 15-20 when I hopefully get a tacoma in the next few months.

I’d say below 25 would be unacceptable for a small commuter car, 22 for a midsize, 16 for a sports car, 15 for a small truck, and 10 for a full size truck.

Eberle-Hills-Cop > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:16

Kind of thrilled with my current 19mpg after a couple years of daily driving a lifted 85 Land Cruiser.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:16

I’m in the high 20s to just over 30 with mixed driving and autox/track days mixed in. I’m pretty content with that in my FR-S.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole
11/19/2015 at 14:19

That's kind of to be expected with the Enclave. Although oddly enough that would probably be the best long distance cruiser.

Future next gen S2000 owner > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:19

I get about 21-22 for my commute in an 04 Mustang with a set of gears. Commute is about 45 miles daily. Next vehicle is a midsize or full size truck that can tow 7000 lbs and get 22-23 combined but not at the same time obviously.

Tom McParland > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:20

My ‘15 GTI hovers around 37-38 MPG at 70 with cruise and 34-35 MPG at 75 with cruise.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > The Dummy Gummy
11/19/2015 at 14:20

Yeah, the AWD tradeoff is a PITA. One of the reasons I traded in my Crosstrek earlier this year. I loved the car, it just wasn't what I wanted for MPG. And the engine needed more oomph.

BigBlock440 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:21

Mid-20s is good with me for a dd. I’ve only got a mile commute and it drops my mileage into low 20s, but my long highway trips on weekends are high 20s so it evens out. I used to have an 80 mile commute, and it was still fine.

My fun car, it doesn’t matter. My truck, I’d like to get better, may even drive it more if it did, but I only go through a tank or two per year anyway so it doesn’t really matter there either.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:21

I drive with meh fuel economy in a car that’s not terribly fun because it’s comfortable and isn’t costing me anything. ~25mpg diesel, Benz with ~400k miles and generally a bit as the Brits would say “knackered”.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Patrick Nichols
11/19/2015 at 14:21

Years ago I had an S10 pickup that I was forever chasing vacuum leaks on. The best I ever got out of it was 9.8mpg. Yeah. That sucked. lol

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:21

40mpg Uk, which is like 33-34mpg US. I can’t afford to run a car that gets much less.

Nonster > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:22

I have three vehicles, and weirdly enough the fun-to-drive factor improves with the fuel mileage

94 Ford Ranger: 15 mpg - super slow

85 Toyota MR2: 30 mpg - buckets of fun, like a go kart

09 Buell Blast: 70 mpg - two whole buckets of fun

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Party-vi
11/19/2015 at 14:23

Ouch. That sucks. On the plus side at least the E46 is engaging to drive.

This is what surprised me most about my parking lot at work. There are a large number of big trucks and SUV's. And most of the people I know who have them never use them as a truck or carry more than two people. Seems like a huge waste of gas to me.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:24

for a daily. 30+ combined or I don’t even want to hear about it. I was actually just thinking about this over lunch.

My Fusion gets on average 29-30 mpg and I think that is not enough for the amount of driving I do.

Remember in Canada gas is usually north of $3.75/us gal.

I’m spending ~$250/month just on gas. for a 1.6L 4cyl. If I drove an SUV or pickup I’d be spending north of $700!!! bucks per month.

I’m even considering the next gen prius because I’m tired of spending that much.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
11/19/2015 at 14:24

Don't those oil burning Benzes take well to a veggie oil conversion? Ever consider it?

MPA > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:25

I get about 27.5 mpg in my FiST, which is fine for me - my previous ‘09 Accent hatch I only got 28.5mpg because I had to make up for the lack of power in that car, but even driving “normal” didn’t help much.

I was unhappy w/ the 20.3mpg my ‘09 WRX got. My BEST tank was 22.3mpg

If I could stay out of boost, I could do better with the FiST, but there’s no fun in that :D

Blondude > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:25

My Land Cruiser averages MPGs in the low teens, so...

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable)
11/19/2015 at 14:25

Hell, at only four miles away you could go a damn month on a tank of gas.

T5Killer > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:26

My Subaru gets 20 to 25 mpg and my cobra gets 18 to 25mpg. The Subaru is not acceptable since it makes no power but its close to being replaced, my wifes Diamante gets way better mileage than the subaru its a shame.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Eberle-Hills-Cop
11/19/2015 at 14:26

Yeah, I can imagine so. It probably feels like you're driving a Prius right about now. lol

911e46z06 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:26

I pay for big power. I get around 20 in the Corvette, M3, and V-Sport, and around 15 in the trucks. Worth it.

T5Killer > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
11/19/2015 at 14:27

Yeah my Legacys 5th gear is horrible I barely overdrive. Stupid stupid gearing.

DirtyBird > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:27

right now I drive a 78 chevy blazer with a v8 and a 4 speed (1st is granny low)

if I can make it a week or 2 without filling up im golden haha (31 gallon tank)

my trans am though I usually got mid teen around town and 27ish on highway trips

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Tom McParland
11/19/2015 at 14:28

Wow, you get that high in the GTI? I knew that the 15’s were supposed to be a much improved car, but I had no idea.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Blondude
11/19/2015 at 14:28

True, but when the shit hits the fan, I think you're in a far better vehicle than my Civic. It's all about perspective.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:28

it is. There is a guy in my office who commutes to work in an F350 dually!!! We work in an office on a computer. I asked him about it and his excuse is that every summer he takes 2 weeks off to go camping with his fifth wheel trailer.

So because you are to good to sleep in a small trailer you will sacrifice your wallet for the other 50 weeks out of the year? on top of that he still has to pay for the trailer too.

It would be way cheaper for him to spend $150 bucks a night on a decent hotel for those two weeks.

TractorPillow > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:29

I honestly do not care because I knew what I was getting into when I bought my car. 12 mpg makes me happy. I usually get 21 on long trips. It helped a lot when I had a classic mini that got 40 mpg at least though...well at least helped justify it to myself. When I move in February I'll look to get an actual daily driver that isn't insane (thinking bmw 2002).

jariten1781 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:29

My commute is 30 miles round trip. It takes me about 2 and a half hours total (morning and night) so I average about 20 MPH.

For gas mileage? IDGAF. My 6 wagon got about 16, FiST gets 28, GTI gets 25.

Needmoargarage > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:29

Sadly, anything over 15 mpg seems really good to me.

My daily drivers (old F-150, Roush Mustang) usually average around that. Once in a while I’ll hop in my Miata, get 30 mpg, and reconsider all my vehicular decisions in life.

Tom McParland > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:29

Like I said...cruise control, if I want to get on it the MPGs go down real fast. And I also drive on the Garden State Parkway in South Jersey...not much in the way of elevation changes. But overall I’m pretty impressed with the fuel economy.

BloodlessWeevil > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:30

I really only use my car in winter and for long trips. What I would put up with depends on how much I like the car. My current car averages around 25 mpg, but I could see settling for 10-15 on a classic Lincoln or Cadillac.

treesmakewater > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:30

My old car (2000 Audi A6 Quattro 4.2) got 18-21 on the interstate, 22-25 on back highways at 60-65mph, and like 13mpg max in city. It was worth it to me though. And most of my driving is highway.

Now I have aa 2003 BMW 325ii and I average about 26mpg.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Luc - The Acadian Oppo
11/19/2015 at 14:31

Yeah, it’s a balancing act. I’ve been down the same road before, and felt the Civic was the best compromise I could come up with. I looked into the C-Max or the Prius, but just couldn’t pull the trigger.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > TractorPillow
11/19/2015 at 14:31

I’d say 12 isn’t half bad for a Viper

ADabOfOppo; Gone Plaid (Instructables Can Be Confusable) > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:32

Could, yes.

Not the way I drive though. :evilgrin:

duurtlang > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:32

Given the fact that gasoline has dropped to €1.50/L ($6.10/gallon US) here today my tolerance for gas guzzling is limited. Had my daily driver (‘00 Peugeot 406 coupe) not had an LPG conversion it would’ve been burning through 8L/100km of gasoline (29.4 mpg US), which at my yearly kilometerage would be utterly unacceptable.

Luckily I do have that LPG conversion, so I can fill it up for the comically low price of €0.55/L ($2.25 a gallon), while having to accept a 10-15% or so dip in fuel economy compared to gasoline.

Added bonus is that I don’t use my DD for commuting, I’ve got a company snooze fest car for that.

The Dummy Gummy > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:32

I was looking into upgrading my car to the Crosstrek, but then I saw the HP. I’m going to hold for a bit. I think it was 140HP and heavier than my 170HP Impreza. I couldn’t bare to lose anymore speed.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > MPA
11/19/2015 at 14:33

No, no there is not. I occasionally drive an Ecoboost F150, and that's where all the fun is. It's like a damn freight train when it kicks in.

duurtlang > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
11/19/2015 at 14:34

My ‘13 Focus wagon company car will hit that 40 mpg at 80 mph, according to its computer. It is a diesel though.

TractorPillow > Luc - The Acadian Oppo
11/19/2015 at 14:35

Worst I ever got was 9 and that was after a morning spent driving through the mountains with some friends.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:35

Too much hassle. It does run a little better with B20, probably because of higher lubricity or something, but if I ran straight veggie I’d choke up the intake even faster and finish trashing the seals in the distributor pump.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > T5Killer
11/19/2015 at 14:36

Yeah, that's unacceptable for the Subaru, especially when you're pulling down similar figures in a Cobra.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > DirtyBird
11/19/2015 at 14:37

I take it you don't drive very far with the Blazer. That sounds like you have to plot your route by gas stations. lol

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:38

The Kia averages about 28-30 MPG on our 36-mile-each-way commute. I run about 75-80 mph with no cruise control and I drive it hard because Charlotte traffic is stupid — especially around Harris Blvd where my wife works. I have to make four U-turns every day to get from home to her work to my work and back again.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > TractorPillow
11/19/2015 at 14:38

But I bet that 9mpg was SOOO worth it.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:39

It really depends on the vehicle.

On a big 26’ moving truck, I’d like to have a diesel one that gets at least 10mpg.

And if it’s an ultra high performance exotic car, I view 10mpg as the minimum acceptable mileage.

And for a small, cheap, gasoline-powered FWD daily driver, I’d like to average at least 30mpg. And if I spent the extra money on a diesel, then I’d like to see at least 40mpg.

And if I spent money on a BEV, 80 MPGe should be the minimum attainable mileage.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:39

The thing is as much as an enthusiast that I am. A daily driver for me has one job to get me to and from work and the other random outings. I don’t really care about the dynamics since I’m just sitting on the freeway with the cruise on. A 400hp car would change absolutely nothing to the thrill of my commute it would only hurt my wallet more.

I’d rather have something that is super reliable and cheap to run so I can use that money for the weekend “fun” car.

I’ve tried getting one car to do it all DD/weekend warrior and it was horrible. sitting on the freeway by myself at 65mph while getting 16mpg is fucking pointless.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Needmoargarage
11/19/2015 at 14:40

Yeah, but I imagine the Fords are considerably more comfortable on a day to day basis. The Miata is the ideal fun car, but I don’t think I'd want to be stuck in traffic in one.

yamahog > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:41

My commute is all of 8 miles, but my gym is about 20 miles away so that’s where I burn most of my gas.

I’m fine averaging a solid 12 in the Blazer (regular gas), 18 in the Camaro, and 40+ on the bike (both premium).

T5Killer > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:42

Yeah that poor car its tired its got 380K miles on it. Plus its 5th gear is the worst overdrive I have ever seen. I never understood why Subaru would gear a Legacy so aggressively

AfromanGTO > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:42

My GTO on the highway gets upper 20s, and it won’t crack 30... In the city it gets around 17-19. A mix of both city and highway gets me around 24 and 430 miles to a tank. In the SS it is lower, because it does primarily city driving and it is auto.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > BloodlessWeevil
11/19/2015 at 14:42

Good point. If the car is worth it to you the MPG really doesn't matter.

Speed > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:43

15mpg around town and 20ish is good enough for me in my beater Grand Cherokee. It was $500 nearly 3 years ago so it’s cheap enough for me not to care about the gas mileage. My stalled, 3.73’d z28 gets about the same around town and lower 20s on the highway. The stall really put a dent in the city mileage, but it’s long paid for and a blast to drive so I never cared much about the mileage either.

yamahog > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
11/19/2015 at 14:44

Can do if you’re willing to sacrifice two wheels and a lot of crash safety ;)

V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:46

17 average

DirtyBird > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:47

I stay fairly local haha

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > duurtlang
11/19/2015 at 14:48

I’ve read that the LPG conversion is quite popular in the EU. Is it solely for the gas savings? Are there any other benefits to running LPG?

davedave1111 > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
11/19/2015 at 14:48

They do. Unfortunately, it’s a Prius...

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > The Dummy Gummy
11/19/2015 at 14:49

I had the CVT in mine, so it was the worst option really. If you fiddled with the paddle shifters and "downshifted" a couple of gears it wasn't so bad, but it certainly wasn't a fast car.

BigBlock440 > Luc - The Acadian Oppo
11/19/2015 at 14:50

A hotel’s not “camping” though. The living space may be similar, but the view when you step out that door isn’t.

Canada seems like an expensive place to have a vehicle sit around that you don’t use often. I don’t know how far he has to commute, but the fuel savings from driving another vehicle may not even come close to covering the costs to buy, register, insure, and maintain a completely separate vehicle. I’ll use the American standard of driving 12,000 miles/year for a quick example. Say the F350 gets 15 mpg, not unreasonable for a diesel truck, and a “more acceptable” commuter that he would replace it with gets 25 mpg. So he’ll use an additional 320 gallons of fuel per year. Assuming gas is $2/gallon and diesel is $2.50, he’ll save $1,040 per year if he replaced the truck with a car.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection
11/19/2015 at 14:51

Wow, that’s pretty damn stupid. But, since I live in the jug handle state (NJ), I’m sadly used to it.

BigBlock440 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:52

Oil change intervals could be increased, as it burns much cleaner than gas keeping the oil cleaner.

davedave1111 > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:53

I don’t commute by car, so I do few enough miles that fuel economy really isn’t worth worrying about, even at UK fuel prices. But the Camry’s pretty good anyway, what with being very light, and a proper, three-box, aerodynamic shape.

duurtlang > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:53

It really isn’t all that popular. Diesel vehicles have become the go-to vehicles to save on fuel costs.

Benefits: cleaner burn (engine oil doesn’t get dirty as fast), better emissions if I’m not mistaken, extra theoretical range as you can still drive on gasoline as well. My gasoline tank is still the stock size, and filled with gasoline. You just don’t want to due to the extra cost of the fuel. There are downsides as well though.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 14:54

MPG isn’t a good metric. What really counts is cost per mile. For example:

‘94 Mazda B-3000 - 18 mpg - ave. $3.33/gal - $0.19/mile

I have to admit, I was surprised about this one. It looks like I picked up the app in 2012 when oil prices were high. I’d bet the story would be different if I dug up my old tracking notebook.

In comparison:

‘14 WRX - 19.3 mpg - ave. $2.90/gal. - $0.15/mile. This is with premium fuel.

The WRX is a lot more fun. It’s worth it. If gas prices go up again, I won’t be as happy, but given the cost of buying a new car, it’s not likely I will buy something more fuel efficient. It will be cheaper to run the WRX into the ground.

By the way, a friend of mine was looking for a hybrid car back in 2011. We ran the numbers. To justify the $10,000 price premium for a hybrid, gas prices would have to reach $12/gal.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Luc - The Acadian Oppo
11/19/2015 at 14:54

Fair point. I have often times considered a compromise car, but let’s face it. Most of my time in the car is commuting. Why not get the vehicle that excels at that?

BloodlessWeevil > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:04

It’s not just how much I like the car. My commute is only ten miles and I’m on two wheels for nine months out of the year, that will offset poor mileage in the remaining three months.

Autohaus Derp > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:07

As a european living in the US, I’m used to paying $9/gallon for fuel back home. So anything in double digits is fine by me.

My camaro seems to average about 26mpg, my ford escape 1.6 ecoboost however reports a pitiful 21mpg average.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > V12 Jake- Hittin' Switches
11/19/2015 at 15:09

When you consider how many cylinders you're using that's pretty cheap!

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > BigBlock440
11/19/2015 at 15:10

I’m saying the camper probably cost $500+/month,the truck another $900, Add another 700+/month on fuel.

That’s over 25 grand (!!!) a year to go “glamping” 2 weeks a year.

What I’m saying is why not get a tent and a normal car if you really want to be camping? Or even a much smaller trailer that you could tow behind almost anything if you really need to have a trailer.

in Canada fuel is AT MINIMUM $3.50/gal and usually way more.

Commuting 30 miles each way by yourself in a dually is ridiculous and not justifiable.

If you work in construction or something where you legitimately need a truck on a daily basis then I have zero issues with that.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > TheRealBicycleBuck
11/19/2015 at 15:12

Yeah, hybrids just don't make much sense, unless you're planning on keeping the car 25 years. The premium is too high for the MPG (and cost to run) tradeoff

BringBackTheCommodore > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:15

Depends on the vehicle I’m driving, I’ll adjust my driving to the vehicle. If I see a sudden, sharp drop in fuel economy, then that, to me, is unacceptable.

For example, I had a 2004 Mach 1 that got 25 on the highway in leisurely driving. When I later considered purchasing a nicely-modded 2003 Mach 1, it was lackluster in fuel economy - I struggled to get 20 mpg. That was unacceptable. My truck gets 16 mpg on the highway. If I see it drop to 9 mpg on the highway, something’s up, and I find that unacceptable.

TheRealBicycleBuck > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:19

Agreed! What’s even worse is that we weren’t factoring in 25 years of ownership. We were looking at the useful battery life. If you were going to keep it for 25 years, you would have to incorporate the cost of battery replacement every 6 years or so.

DoYouEvenShift > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:20

15 mile drive each way, stop and go for about 80% of the drive. About a 30-40 minute drive.

Stock LS1 Camaro SS 6 speed as my current daily. Id say around 15ish mpg. Im perfectly happy with the mix of performance vs mpg.

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > duurtlang
11/19/2015 at 15:22

And Euro gallons are bigger than US gallons. So your 40mpg is only 33mpg when US gallons are used.

kafromet > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:22

“Are you willing to forgo some fuel economy in sake of a fun car?”

The 33’s on my Wrangler say yes :D

My commute is about 45 minutes each way, occasionally over an hour if traffic sucks. I typically get around 14mpg. I don’t like it, but I can tolerate it.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > DoYouEvenShift
11/19/2015 at 15:22

The stop and go is what gets you (as I'm sure you know). I've known people that can get in the high 20's on the interstate in 6 on an LS1 4th Gen.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > kafromet
11/19/2015 at 15:24

You've got a Wrangler on 33's. Make the commute more interesting and just drive in a straight line to your destination. ;)

duurtlang > Manwich - now Keto-Friendly
11/19/2015 at 15:25

No. US gallons. There are no such things as Euro gallons. The Brits do use gallons occasionally, but I’m no Brit. I use the metric system. 6L/100km = 39.2 mpg US

DoYouEvenShift > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:26

Oh yeah, its common to sit through 3 cycles at a light before I get through. On the highway Ive gotten low 30s. These cars loove open roads!

DrScientist > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:28

i walk to work usually. but have to take a 200 mile round trip to a different office ~1x/week.. i aim for about 23mpgs on that trip. but then again its much better than i used to get in my now sold :( v12 jaguar. also, i get reimbursed for the travel expense, so doesn’t really matter to me. :)

Maidee > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:31

My 90-some odd mile commute is 95% highway but about half is bumper to bumper traffic. When it is somewhat open I’ll drive like a maniac and when it’s bumper I’ll drive like a civilized person. So I’ve been getting about high 20s maybe 30 if I’m lucky for my average tank in a Mazda 6. Could be better though but I'm having too much fun to change.

Stapleface-Now Hyphenated! > Maidee
11/19/2015 at 15:35

Sometimes you have to drive like a nutball just to keep your sanity between the bumper to bumper parts.

BigBlock440 > Luc - The Acadian Oppo
11/19/2015 at 15:35

You can’t justify it, which is why you don’t have one. He apparently couldn’t justify a second car for commuting.

Maidee > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:38

Exactly!! That's my excuse at least and it works for the most part.

Needmoargarage > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:47

The Miata was great in stock form (apart from being terrified by tailgating texters in large vehicles) but I’ve ruined any chance of comfort with suspension and seat modification.

The F150 is large and very bouncy, but I suppose its bench seat is somewhat comfortable.

The Mustang is terrible. Stiff suspension and stiffer clutch...feels like I’ve been doing squats on my left leg only after I get stuck in traffic. Only thing that makes it worth it is when I get to use the go pedal.

I think my love of vehicles has ruined any chance of owning something truly practical.

HammerheadFistpunch > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 15:55

Re: gas mileage - it is what it is...I pay what I pay.

Rico > El Rivinado
11/19/2015 at 16:03

Same, as long as I get 20 highway I really don’t care. In “real” city driving as in bumper to bumper traffic with street lights and stop signs I only pull 13 mpg.

BJ > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 16:18

It depends...

Manwich - now Keto-Friendly > duurtlang
11/19/2015 at 16:19

Yeah I guess British =/= Euro.

It’s the BBC Top Gear effect and them dissing American cars and saying stuff like “Well we already have 80mpg diesel cars...” and gloss over the fact that they’re using Imperial gallons.

And then people here hear that and say daft things like “well why does this get 80mpg in Europe but gets so much worse mileage in North America”

shop-teacher > Stapleface-Now Hyphenated!
11/19/2015 at 16:24

I’ve never owned a vehicle that got better than 25 mpg highway. I routinely get in the mid-teens for gas mileage daily driving my truck and now my Roadmaster wagon. The thing is, I don’t drive all that much. My wife and I both have very short commutes, and our families are all located fairly close to us. I drive 7-8k miles a year, and my wife only drives another 2-3k per year, so it’s just not a huge factor for us.